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    Shooting the .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO

    Mike’s .308 Winchester bolt actions have included these two. At top is a Remington Model 700V (M40) with a Leupold M4 3-9x scope. The bottom rifle is a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with 2-7x scope.
    Mike’s .308 Winchester bolt actions have included these two. At top is a Remington Model 700V (M40) with a Leupold M4 3-9x scope. The bottom rifle is a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with 2-7x scope.
    Over more than 40 years, I’ve been fortunate to experience rifles chambered for .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO in its three basic genres. The first I define as “sporting rifles.” I’ve owned or borrowed from various manufacturers many bolt actions, two lever guns and semiautos. Second is “target rifles.” These have included one custom and one factory made rifle. “Military rifles” have included M1As, FN FALs, ARs and even a couple of “real” M14s.

    As readers undoubtedly know, the .308 Winchester was the civilian version of the U.S. Government’s 7.62x51mm NATO. However, it is less well known that Winchester beat the government by introducing its version in 1952. M14 7.62mm NATO rifles were not issued to troops until 1957. Dimensionally, the two rounds are the same and both will chamber in rifles labeled .308 Winchester or 7.62mm NATO. Whereas warnings abound that one should be careful in mixing .223 Remington and 5.56mm rifles and ammunition, I’ve looked for and not found warnings about the mixing the two types of civilian and military loads discussed here. In fact, as one of my photos shows, some ammunition boxes are labeled with both cartridges.

    Factory ammunition for .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm can be marked either way or with both cartridge designations.
    Factory ammunition for .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm can be marked either way or with both cartridge designations.

    Another little known fact is that government testers actually started with the .300 Savage as their T65 (T meant experimental) and eventually, with several developmental changes, came up with the T65E3. It was adopted by NATO on December 15, 1953. Several other nations offered their own cartridge designs for NATO testing, but the U.S. was adamant that its cartridges should be picked. It’s easy to see why. The .30-06 served admirably in Model 1903s, Model 1917s and M1 Garands for a half-century. The new 7.62x51mm was simply the ’06 packaged in a shorter case (2.494 versus 2.015 inches). Military specifications called for a 150-grain FMJ bullet at 2,750 fps – almost exactly the same as .30-06 M2 Ball.

    With a Springfield Armory M1A, groups like this were the norm with issue aperture sights.
    With a Springfield Armory M1A, groups like this were the norm with issue aperture sights.
    Most military forces adopting the 7.62mm NATO put them in select fire semiauto/full auto rifles. Although the United States double-crossed its NATO allies by adopting 5.56mm M16s as early as 1964, the first U.S. troops fighting in Vietnam used M14s, and I recently read that Australian Army troops carried FN FAL 7.62mm NATO rifles for most of their time there.

    Even after both the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps infantry were equipped with M16s, the latter outfit’s snipers used a 7.62mm NATO military version of Remington’s bolt-action Model 700V called the M40, and the U.S. Army scoped some M14s and called them M21s. If the 7.62mm NATO was so good, why did the U.S. go to the 5.56mm? M16s were 2 to 3 pounds lighter than M14s, and a 20-round magazine of 5.56mm weighs half of a like capacity 7.62mm magazine. Perhaps most importantly, an M16 full-auto firing a 55-grain bullet is far more controllable than an M14 firing a 150-grain bullet.

    My .308 Winchester handloading began with hunting rifles, Browning BLRs and a Remington Model 600. With those lightweights (actually carbines), 150-grain bullets were favored due to the recoil factor. With 180-grain bullets that little Remington’s forearm would jump off the sandbag several inches.  In 1980, I finally found a .308 sporter that suited me and it’s still here.

    It was on a used-gun rack in a Bozeman, Montana, store. Someone had restocked a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in Mannlicher style with straight grain walnut ending with a steel cap on one end and a rubber recoil pad on the other. Its serial number dated it as 1952 production, making it one of the first .308 Winchesters. Hunting season had already started, so quickly a good load was found. That was 44 grains of IMR-3031 with 150-grain Sierra spitzers and unremembered primers. Velocity exceeded 2,800 fps. Three shots often provided MOA accuracy, and five shots usually clustered into 1.5 MOA. Over the decades, primers and bullets have varied, but three things have been consistent: Winchester brass, 44 grains of IMR-3031 powder and a bullet weight of 150 grains.

    Mike has tried these powders of medium burning rate in many different semiauto .308/7.62mm rifles. Accurate 5744 has been used for cast bullet loads in bolt actions.
    Mike has tried these powders of medium burning rate in many different semiauto .308/7.62mm rifles. Accurate 5744 has been used for cast bullet loads in bolt actions.
    Along the way that Model 70 has accounted for coyotes, pronghorns, mule deer and elk here in Montana, and a few head of plains game in Africa. All were shot with 150-grain bullets and nothing ran away wounded. It should also be mentioned that in all that time I never shot at anything past about 200 yards. To be honest, I cannot say whether that Model 70 has stuck because I shoot it well or I shoot it well because I like it.
    The best groups shot with the DS Arms .308 were slightly under 3 inches at 100 yards.
    The best groups shot with the DS Arms .308 were slightly under 3 inches at 100 yards.

    One day when chronographing .308 loads, a friend visited. After watching a bit, he said, “If that Winchester wasn’t a .308 I’d try talking you out of it.” My answer was “Why not a .308?” He didn’t think the cartridge would be adequate for elk. That afternoon he had brought a sporterized Springfield Model 1903A3. His loads used the same Sierra 150-grain spitzers loaded over 59 grains of IMR-4350. We chronographed our loads side by side. His barrel was 24 inches long; mine was 22 inches. My spitzers were shooting over 50 fps faster than his, so we both learned a lesson.

    During this time my .308 interest expanded to target rifles. Desiring one capable of tiny groups, I had a nice custom Mauser 98 target weight .30-06 with a badly pitted barrel rebarreled with a Shilen blank. It was of course chambered .308, was about 11⁄8 inch in diameter and 27 inches long. The Sierra manual I had at that time mentioned the company’s .308 test load with 168-grain HPBTs was 37 grains of IMR-3031. I copied it directly and got .5-inch to slightly larger groups for five shots at 100 yards. Back then Winchester sold bullets for handloaders in distinctive white boxes. Its 168-grain target bullet was a flat base. To my surprise it would usually group under a half-inch with no other changes. I probably wasn’t the only handloader heart-broken when Winchester discontinued its bullet line.

    The DS Arms SA58 rifle.
    The DS Arms SA58 rifle.

    My interests in .308/7.62mm began to expand into the area of military style semiautos. Up to this point, .308 handloading had been easy. For the heavy-barreled target rifle, cases were only neck-sized and never needed trimming. Even though that Model 98 had a magazine it was only used as a single shot. Therefore, overall cartridge length was ignored. Bullets were seated as far out as possible, short of being jammed into the rifling.

    This photo shows the external gas port adjustment on the DS Arms .308 Winchester.
    This photo shows the external gas port adjustment on the DS Arms .308 Winchester.
    For all the hunting .308s that passed through my hands, cases were full length sized and overall loaded cartridge length was 2.80 inches. Bolt actions are kind to .308 brass. Mine usually developed loose primer pockets before needing trimming. My more or less lackadaisical attitude toward .308 handloading changed when military style rifles entered the mix. Over the years I’ve owned several Springfield Armory M1As and even a semiauto (with no provision for full auto) that was actually marked M14. (That’s an odd story that I’ll save for another time.) Our local sheriff’s department also got a half-dozen M14s from the National Guard some years back. The sheriff brought one to my private range to try on paper targets with factory loads and some of my handloads.

    More recently I acquired an Armalite AR-10 and a DS Arms FN FAL SA58. Some of those military style 7.62mm NATO semiautos fed and functioned perfectly with cases sized full length as used in my Model 70, and some did not.

    That was immediately evident when a handload stuck in an M1A’s chamber. It wouldn’t enter enough to fire and getting it free safely required two sets of hands. One set held the rifle pointed safely (outdoors) while the other set of hands held a block of wood on the operating rod handle and tapped (whacked) it with a hammer to free the cartridge. A small base sizing die was the solution, and semiauto .308/7.62mm NATOs have never given a bit of trouble since.

    These 168-grain flat base HP match bullets were the most accurate projectiles Mike has ever tried in his Shilen-barreled bolt action.
    These 168-grain flat base HP match bullets were the most accurate projectiles Mike has ever tried in his Shilen-barreled bolt action.

    Some of my military .308/7.62mm NATO rifles shot very well. When scoped, I’ve received 100-yard groups under 1.5 inches. Iron sighted, they have been more in the 2- to 3-MOA range. With their iron sights, the AR-10 and FN FAL have usually grouped into 3 or 4 MOA, and occasionally slightly less. They all functioned perfectly with proper handloads and all factory loads, including some military surplus. The FN FAL is interesting in that its gas system is easily adjustable externally. That feature probably came in handy because about 70 nations adopted them at one time or another, and 7.62mm NATO military ammunition has been made pretty much worldwide. There had to be pressure and velocity differences. An adjustable gas system had to be a boon.

    With Sierra 155-grain match bullets, the Remington Model 700V (M40) was capable of MOA groups at 300 yards.
    With Sierra 155-grain match bullets, the Remington Model 700V (M40) was capable of MOA groups at 300 yards.
    Experiencing military semiauto .308/7.62mm NATO rifles didn’t stop me from also trying a replica of the M40. Remington made these simply by putting Model 700V barreled actions into plain, oil finished walnut stocks. I bought one with a 3-9x M4 Leupold scope already mounted. Shooting it pleased me greatly. That off-the-shelf rifle easily provided sub-MOA groups all the way to 300 yards with no special effort in handloading. Mostly it has been loaded with 155-grain match grade bullets. It’s also interesting to note that IMR-3031 again proved to be that rifle’s accuracy powder.

    Thus far readers may have noticed that all my early .308 Winchester handloads for bolt actions were built upon only one powder. Nowadays, there are many more available. Therefore, with the semiautos newer propellants have been tried along with some old timers. Propellants tried have included Varget, CFE 223, Reloder 15, IMR-4064 and both IMR and Hodgdon 4895. It would be hard to choose one above the other for semiauto use. All are in the proper burning rate range. Considering they have been fired in several different rifles, I’d venture that on the average their groups have been more or less equal.

    Whether with scoped semiautos or competition grade bolt actions, Mike recommends these 155-grain match bullets.
    Whether with scoped semiautos or competition grade bolt actions, Mike recommends these 155-grain match bullets.

    My .308/7.62mm NATO handloading efforts have focused mostly on 150/155-grain bullets but with some attention paid to 168-grain HPBTs. A point of note is that while .30-06 military rifles had rifling twist rates of 1:10, the .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO has used one turn in 12 inches (1:12).  With iron sighted military style rifles, no difference seems to arise between common hunting bullets and HPBT target bullets. However, both of those types beat FMJs in group shooting.

    Springfield Armory’s M1A is a semiauto civilian version of the select-fire U.S. M14.
    Springfield Armory’s M1A is a semiauto civilian version of the select-fire U.S. M14.
    As pointed out earlier, 7.62mm NATO specs called for 150-grain FMJs at 2,750 fps. My handloads in semiautos have never equaled that velocity with charges I deemed safe for continual use. The most velocity provided with 150/155-grain bullets from an M1A or AR-10 (22-and 20-inch barrels, respectively) was around 2,600 to 2,650 fps. The 24-inch barrel of the Remington M40/M700V did give over 2,700 fps with its IMR-3031 accuracy load. Winchester’s 147-grain FMJ factory load, labeled both .308 Winchester and 7.62mm NATO, does equal military specifications.

    Mike has handloaded for this Armalite AR-10.
    Mike has handloaded for this Armalite AR-10.
    Finishing this article without mention of cast bullet shooting would be neglectful. It seems the .308 is a natural for lead alloy bullets. Here is one impressive example. I had never fired the Remington M40/M700V with any cast bullet and neither had I ever fired a single cast bullet from RCBS mould 30-200SIL. Some of those were poured of Linotype, sized .310 inch, lubed with SPG and gas checked with Lyman’s product. They were seated over 20 grains of Accurate 5744 and shot five rounds into just less than an inch at 100 yards for the very first group fired.
    For all hunting with his Model 70 .308 Winchester, Mike has always used IMR-3031 in Winchester brass with 150-grain bullets.
    For all hunting with his Model 70 .308 Winchester, Mike has always used IMR-3031 in Winchester brass with 150-grain bullets.

    If there was an “everyman’s” title given to a cartridge, it would have to be the .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO. It fills quite a few niches for riflemen, from cast bullet shooters to big-game hunters to target competitors.










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