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    I’ll Have a 30 GIbbs!

    Nipping at the Heels of the 300 H&H

    Not a lightweight, this 03A3 is comfy in recoil. An elk rifle that sends 200-grain bullets at 2,750 fps.
    Not a lightweight, this 03A3 is comfy in recoil. An elk rifle that sends 200-grain bullets at 2,750 fps.
    Al, he wrote, owned just one rifle, a 30-40 Krag won in a poker game. It fit his chosen habitation in the forests of the Pacific Northwest, where he split his time between a shack on a timber company tract and its coastal counterpart overlooking clam flats and black brant flyways. Besides shells for his Parker and “a broken box of 180-grain softpoints” for the Krag, Al had few encumbrances. But when dawn broke over clear-cuts during deer season, he rued the limited reach of his rifle. “Next year, Spud, you’ll see me out on Bone Mountain with one of them Gibbs 30 Magnums.”

    Until I read that in Francis Sell’s fine 1964 treatise on deer hunting, I’d not heard of a 30 Gibbs, and it would be some years before I saw a rifle so chambered.

    Wayne replaced the J.C. Higgins scope with a 3-9x Leupold Vari-X II, a ’60s optic of “Gibbs vintage.”
    Wayne replaced the J.C. Higgins scope with a 3-9x Leupold Vari-X II, a ’60s optic of “Gibbs vintage.”
    Its front sight was missing, the scar still evident on the barrel. I picked the Springfield from a rack bristling with unremarkable second-hand bolt rifles. It was an 03A3, ably restocked in American walnut in a style that spoke to me of my youth. The low-swing safety and polished, artfully-shaped bolt handle dodged Buehler rings gripping a J.C. Higgins 4x scope. The rifle hopped eagerly to my cheek, pulling my eye to the crosswire. The bolt ran silkily, more evidence this rifle had been “sporterized” by a savvy shooter.

    But I didn’t need another 30-06.

    About to tuck it back, I glanced by habit where re-chambering begs a barrel mark. There it was: 30 Gibbs. The proprietor had no cartridges or dies and little to say about this wildcat. “First I’ve seen.”

    Had the price been unreasonable, I’d have paid it anyway.

    This Springfield’s muzzle caught Wayne’s eye. What did the owner do besides remove the front sight?
    This Springfield’s muzzle caught Wayne’s eye. What did the owner do besides remove the front sight?
    This rifle had the feel of the early 1960s. Leupold had introduced its Vari-X 3-9x scope in ’61. The Vari-X II followed shortly thereafter, about when Sell wrote of his hunting partner’s lust for a 30 Gibbs. So the J.C. Higgins and its off-center crosswire lost their place to a Vari-X II. Redding dies were already on the way.

    I read about Rocky Gibbs and his cartridges. The 30-06 was the parent case for most. To boost its case capacity, he moved the shoulder forward.

    Bob Hagel, who wrote with authority borne of long experience, was not impressed with the result. In Handloader (No. 73, May-June, 1978), he wrote: “For the record, I found that when using cases of the same weight, both fired and full-length resized … there is only 5.8 grains difference in water capacity with the 180-grain Hornady flat-base bullet seated to the same depth.”

    Rifle enthusiasts used Buehler rings and mounts.
    Rifle enthusiasts used Buehler rings and mounts.
    Hagel used a post-’64 Winchester M70 with a standard 24-inch barrel in tests. He concluded the 30 Gibbs loaded to “approximately the same pressure” would edge the 30-06 by about 50 fps and fall well shy of matching belted magnum velocities of the day.

    Manolis Aamoen Gibbs was born on November 12, 1915. Childhood typhoid cost him the sight in his right eye. So he learned to fire rifles from his left shoulder. After graduating high school in Gainesville, Texas, he took a train to California, the land of promise for refugees savaged by the Dust Bowl. As the rails carried him to Richmond, he marveled at the great white-capped pyramids hazy on the horizon. “Those are the Rocky Mountains,” a passenger told him. The name had a strong, enduring ring. It so appealed to Gibbs that he adopted it and changed his middle name, too.

    Rocky Gibbs moved to Idaho in 1955, set up shop to build rifles for his seven wildcats on 30-06 brass.
    Rocky Gibbs moved to Idaho in 1955, set up shop to build rifles for his seven wildcats on 30-06 brass.
    California lost Rocky Gibbs to Idaho in 1955. He arrived in a March blizzard at the 35-acre tract he’d just bought near Viola, eight miles north of Moscow. He laid out a 500-yard range and converted a metal shop into one equipped for rifle-building. By then, he had seven wildcat cartridges. While his .270 had been based on the 270 Winchester case, he used 30-06 brass to load all seven in Idaho.

    Rocky trumpeted velocities that left seasoned riflemen scratching their noggins. His claim that 63 grains of IMR-4350 in his .270 sent 130-grain bullets at 3,430 fps put it in league with the 270 Weatherby Magnum – quite a stretch, given the greater case capacity of the Weatherby and the fact Roy Weatherby was hardly bashful puffing his hotrods! But Rocky didn’t back down, declaring his 270 Gibbs “the best all-around cartridge for a handloader.”

    While Rocky and his disciples boasted of magnum speeds with the 30 Gibbs (nickeled here), the ’06 case, however it’s shaped, lacks the capacity of the 300 Winchester and 300 H&H magnums.
    While Rocky and his disciples boasted of magnum speeds with the 30 Gibbs (nickeled here), the ’06 case, however it’s shaped, lacks the capacity of the 300 Winchester and 300 H&H magnums.
    A lofty claim. But even Jack O’Connor was impressed. “As far as I can tell,” he wrote in Outdoor Life, “Brother Gibbs doesn’t do it with mirrors.” In the magazine’s May, 1956 issue, O’Connor reported firing three Gibbs rifles at Speer’s lab in Lewiston, Idaho, where he lived. He observed cratered primers, but “there were no primer leaks [and] in no instance was it hard to extract a case … I could literally open the bolt with one finger.” The minimal taper of Gibbs cartridges limited bolt thrust, which can make bolts hard to open with frothy loads. Bolt thrust can also be reined in by ensuring that cases and chambers are free of lube, as Roger Stowers pointed out in his work for Handloader on the .30 Gibbs.

    Rocky Gibbs tested novel handloading methods. His published booklet, Front Ignition Loading Technique, described duplex loads pioneered by Charlie O’Neil, Elmer Keith and Don Hopkins of OKH fame. Rocky cautioned handloaders to work up loads prudently and to heed signs of high pressure, which “may be as subtle as a cratered primer.” He declared snug primer pockets a sign of safe handloads. Sadly, just three years after his move to Idaho, a house fire consumed his records and his stock of booklets.

    The 30 Gibbs handily outperforms the 30-06 with heavy bullets. The 03A3 lets you “seat them out.”
    The 30 Gibbs handily outperforms the 30-06 with heavy bullets. The 03A3 lets you “seat them out.”
    Fire-forming standard loads in Improved chambers is the common and convenient way of making Improved cases – those with re-shaped shoulders that boost case capacity incrementally. But this method suffices only if the datum line on the case shoulder doesn’t move. The datum line is the point of contact, shoulder to chamber, that stops rimless cartridges from continuing forward when they’re chambered and prevents undue stretching upon firing. The shoulder in a 30 Gibbs chamber is farther forward than that in a 30-06 chamber. So a standard 30-06 cartridge held against the bolt face does not contact it. Firing with this condition of excess headspace lets gas pressure push the brass to fit the chamber up front if the case remains stationary. Unless tightly held to the bolt face by the extractor or by the bullet’s contact with rifling lands, the firing pin’s blow can push the case forward. Jamming the shoulder and head in opposite directions, gas pressure stretches the case in front of its web, leaving a visible white ring just ahead of the extractor groove. Case separation there spills gas that can score the chamber and even shatter the rifle.

    Old, used 30-06 brass delivered two splits. Wayne advises new brass, not necessarily nickeled as here.
    Old, used 30-06 brass delivered two splits. Wayne advises new brass, not necessarily nickeled as here.
    Seating a flat-base bullet backward so it lodges against the lands is one way to secure the case on the bolt face, so the brass moves only up front, re-shaping the shoulder upon firing. But there are a couple of other, safer options.

    Using 30-06 cases, you can expand necks in a 338-06 sizing die, then run them through a 30 Gibbs die. The .338-06 neck is adequate for headspacing, and you won’t mangle cases or take as many neck-sizing steps as you might starting with 35 Whelen brass. Either way, starting with new, not once-fired cases makes sense. Cases emerge with two shoulders. Firing in a 30 Gibbs rifle erases the lower, original shoulder. You’ve moved the datum line forward safely. I’ve had no problems using full-power loads for case forming, though accuracy is typically best with fully formed brass, especially when the new neck isn’t concentric with the rest of the case or the bore. This happens often and is something the handloader should be aware of. Neck turning is a prudent step toward concentricity.

    Different stages (right to left): a 30-06 case, with neck expanded and then sized in a Gibbs die, a fire-formed .30 Gibbs case with a new shoulder.
    Different stages (right to left): a 30-06 case, with neck expanded and then sized in a Gibbs die, a fire-formed .30 Gibbs case with a new shoulder.
    An alternative is to re-shape 30-06 cases hydraulically with a Gibbs Wildcat Case Forming Tool – should you find one. The die set comprises a punch, a reamer, a die body and a 30-06 head shell holder without the primer hole. I believe RCBS made these. Hornady’s Custom Shop is a more recent source, but a new set will cost $200. Cases to be formed this way must have seated primers. Fired cases do. With new cases, simply insert fired primers for the purpose. Bob Hagel advised installing the die a half-turn shy of contact with the shell holder so the finished case shoulder makes “press-fit” contact with the chamber. A quarter-turn works for my rifle. It’s the same principle and practice you’d use neck-sizing to reduce case stretch. In your loading press, run the case into the form die, then ream the inside of the neck to ensure a perfect fit for the plunger. Remove the case, fill it with water, re-insert it and ease the plunger into the die, letting air escape. The water will stop the plunger. Rap the plunger head with a mallet until it contacts the top of the die. Remove the case, dump the water, deprime and dry.

    To prevent case damage in sizing, use plenty of lube on new 30-06 brass, bump it to .338, then size in a 30 Gibbs die. Or use Gibbs’s hydraulic method. Work carefully and you’ll have few, if any, lost cases.
    To prevent case damage in sizing, use plenty of lube on new 30-06 brass, bump it to .338, then size in a 30 Gibbs die. Or use Gibbs’s hydraulic method. Work carefully and you’ll have few, if any, lost cases.
    Incidentally, forming new cases I’ve come to prefer naked brass to nickel-plated. The plating can flake off as grit when hulls are given new and sharper shoulders.

    Gibbs cartridges put near-magnum bullet velocities in reach of anyone with an 03A3 Springfield. These were peddled by surplus houses in the ’50s and ’60s for $29.95. (Weep with me.) Rebarreled, they could accommodate any of the wildcats from Gibbs Rifle Products.

    The 240 Gibbs, from re-shaped 25-06 brass, isn’t as useful as it is fast. Rocky claimed 3,600 fps with 75-grain bullets, 3,500 with 85s and 3,250 with 105-grain Speers. The only rimless wildcat that shot flatter, he assured shooters, was the 25 Gibbs. It out-performed the 25-06 (then still a wildcat), almost matching the 257 Weatherby Magnum but with less bolt thrust. Rocky was said to recommend the .25 to customers dithering over their options. Cynics questioned the data: 3,900 fps from 75-grain bullets and nearly 3,550 with 100-grain, but the .25 Gibbs ranked third in sales, behind Rocky’s .270 and .30 Gibbs.

    The 1950s weren’t kind to hot 6.5mm cartridges, as Winchester found with its .264 in ’59. Rocky said his 6.5 was “a vicious big game rifle, fit for gophers and grizzlies.” A touch of hyperbole there. Still, range trials by experienced shooters turned up some stellar groups. Bullets of 100 to 140 grains clocked from 3,450 to 3,050 feet per second (fps). The 7mm Gibbs sent 139-grain missiles at 3,300 fps, 154s at over 3,100. Rocky reported 2,950 with Hornady’s 175-grain game bullet, which he liked immensely. The 7mm Gibbs might have fared better in a market bereft of the 7mm Weatherby and Warren Page’s 7mm Mashburn. When, in 1962, Remington pitched big money into ads for its fresh 7mm Magnum in the new, eye-catching Model 700 rifle, all the competition felt its shadow!  

    At .225 inch, the Gibbs’s neck is short. But the 300 Savage’s is.220 inch. Long enough for this elk-killing bullet!
    At .225 inch, the Gibbs’s neck is short. But the 300 Savage’s is.220 inch. Long enough for this elk-killing bullet!
    The 30 Gibbs was the second cartridge in Rocky’s high-octane series and the first based on the 30-06 case. In his Front Ignition Loading Technique Manual, he noted the ready supply of ’06 brass and claimed that “a case with standard head size delivers 40 percent less thrust to the locking lugs than a case with a large head” like the 300 H&H Magnum and its offspring. Rocky declared the 30 Gibbs “the most economical 30-caliber … in the world.” Shooters could expect recoil and barrel life “comparable” to what they’d get from a 30-06. Rocky favored Douglas barrels and recommended 1:12 twist. On order he would furnish barreled actions with faster or slower twist.

    Parker “P.O.” Ackley once observed the most efficient .30-bore cartridge would hold about 65 grains of IMR-4350 to the base of the neck. Depending on the source, a standard 30-06 case holds about 60, given light taps to settle the powder, 30-06 Ackley Improved cases (Winchester-Western) hold an average of 62. Those fired in my 30 Gibbs hold 65. So Rocky bumped capacity by 5 percent over the 30-06 A. I., whose 40-degree shoulder gives it a 3 percent edge on the unaltered ’06 case. Yes, that .250 neck is short – but not much shorter than the .264 neck of the 300 Winchester Magnum – and the 300 Savage, popular since its 1920 debut, has a .220 neck!

    In 1958 Rocky added the 338 Gibbs to his line. Unlike his .30 and 8mm, it required a new barrel or a reboring job, as well as a fresh chamber. High-speed .33s of that day were wildcats. The .33 Winchester had died with the 1886 lever rifle in 1936 and, at its friskiest, could kick 200-grain flat-nose bullet at only 2,400 fps. Fred Zeglin, in his excellent book on wildcat cartridges, wrote that Rocky favored 250-grain bullets for his .338. But such projectiles ate a lot of powder space. To reach 2,750 fps, a pointed bullet of that weight and diameter needed more space than available in any re-shaped 30-06 hull. Speculation as to how the .338 might have sold absent the debut that year of Winchester’s .338 Magnum is pointless. The superb Model 70 Alaskan made rifles in 8mm Gibbs all but irrelevant.  

    Cases for P.O. Ackley’s 30-06 Improved are easier to make, but the 30 Gibbs trumps it ballistically.
    Cases for P.O. Ackley’s 30-06 Improved are easier to make, but the 30 Gibbs trumps it ballistically.
    Rocky also developed a “Pressure-Analyzer System” to measure peak chamber pressures. Unlike a copper crusher, it didn’t require drilling (ruining) barrels. He checked his primitive strain-gauge against the copper units of pressure (CUP) method, then used the transducer alone. While Rocky often reported his pressures in pounds per square inch (psi), Zeglin points out the conversion from transducer results to psi might well have been beyond him. Of course, psi and CUP values are only by rare coincidence, if ever, the same. Rocky isn’t the only person to have used them interchangeably, in error.

    Published velocities of Gibbs cartridges are often dismissed as untenable within accepted pressure limits. While I generally avoid feeding my rifles maximum loads, I’m loath to declare what can’t be done. Initially, Winchester’s .264 Magnum was listed as hurling 140-grain bullets at 3,200 fps. That figure was later reduced to 3,030. Anyone clocking 140-grain softpoints from the .270’s much smaller case at 3,100 had to question this shift! I’ve stoked 140-grain loads in the 26-inch barrel of my Model 70 .264 to well over 3,200, so I won’t say Rocky didn’t get the velocities he claimed.

    On the other hand, he had a vested interest in high numbers. He could get them by listing only the top-most of the velocities chronographed. Barrel length also mattered. Rocky, it’s been said, measured his barrels from the front of the chamber to the muzzle, not from breech to muzzle.

    Fashioning brass for my 30 Gibbs, I sized 30-06 cases in 338-06 dies, then in 30 Gibbs dies to give them a headspacing stop. Mild 50-grain charges of IMR-4350 behind 165-grain bullets fire formed a new shoulder and erased the old. These loads averaged 2 minute of angle (MOA) at the range. Fully formed cases snugged groups. Using data for the 30-06 as a baseline to work up 30 Gibbs charges, I first added a percentage of the maximum for the 30-06. This boost did little for light-bullet loads. Ackley had published 3,450 fps for 150-grain bullets. My first loads fell well shy of that, not even matching his 3,150 fps for 150s from the 30-06 Improved! The Gibbs’s additional case capacity trumped my increased powder charges.

    A broken ankle kept Wayne and his Gibbs out of elk country during a banner year. But next season….
    A broken ankle kept Wayne and his Gibbs out of elk country during a banner year. But next season….
    Heavy bullets responded with more enthusiasm to equivalent boosts in charge weights. With no wish to blow primers, stick the bolt or otherwise abuse my rifle, I crept toward higher speeds, dismissing the 3,140 fps Ackley listed for 180-grain bullets in the Gibbs as unreasonable if not impossible. (That’s 300 Winchester Magnum turf!). A bump of 100 fps over “ordinary” velocity for each of five big game bullet weights in the 30-06 seemed a more realistic target. Those figures roughly: 2,900 fps for 150-grain bullets, 2,800 for 165s, 2,700 for 180s, 2,550 for 200s and 2,400 for 220s. I’ve listed in the load table charges that sent bullets 100 fps faster from the .30 Gibbs, omitting the many that didn’t. I was most interested in how the .30 Gibbs might boost 180-, 200- and 220-grain bullets for hunting moose, elk and big bears in mixed cover.

    Judging from the condition of spent primers (a few extruded, none flattened) and case heads (no worrying ejector marks), also the ready extraction of all empties, I’ve plenty of room to increase charges. While a few loads brought coarse stick powders to the base of the neck, none were compressed. I seated the bullets well out because, well, I could. The rifle’s throat was generous. So, too, the magazine.

    This 03A3 seemed happy drilling 11⁄4- to 11⁄2-MOA groups. So am I. That level of accuracy is more than sufficient for hunting. In a nod to the handload that took my first elk – 180-grain Speers in a 300 H&H – I chose these bullets, with a charge of IMR-4451 for my elk hunt with the 30 Gibbs.

    I’ve shot elk with the 30-30 Winchester, 303 Savage, 32 Special and .250/3000 Savage. At woods ranges, those and a battalion of more capable cartridges would have toppled that six-point. Thumbing .30 Gibbs loads into the magazine, I was no better equipped to shoot elk than if the rifle had remained a 30-06, but my 03A3 and its hand-fashioned cartridges brought to mind another era – people and events that bear remembrance. Or imagining.

    This Springfield is my connection to a colorful wildcatter and a time that wears well in memory. Rocky Gibbs challenged shooters to hurl bullets faster, on flatter arcs, from tired infantry rifles and range-pails of 30-06 hulls. He died of leukemia in 1973. He was 58.


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